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"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary." Vince Lombardi







Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Are successful women too picky?

Are successful women too picky? Can a successful woman have a successful relationship? I was driving into work today and on the radio there was a discussion about how successful women are incapable of having successful relationships because of a myriad of reasons. The one reason that stuck out to me was that the more successful you are, the pickier you are. So, to have a successful relationship, women need to lower their standards.


This is complete and total nonsense. In the DC metropolitan area, like most major cities, there are a large number of single women who are both educated and successful. It is important to note that successful is a relative term. In the case of this conversation, I think success equates to money and/or education, status, white collar, etc. Think about this. Women in this area are essentially forced to "date down" at some point. Women in white collar jobs date blue collar men all the time. Teachers date garbage men, accountants date city cops. Those of you in the DC metropolitan area must see this all the time. A woman can go out and meet a carpenter, for example, and if you are attracted to the guy, then more than likely you are going to go out with him, at least one. You may or may not hit it off with the person but at the very least you were willing to date him.

Like all relationships, things may start off good and end up a mess. I find that when I date a man that I cannot come home and tell about my day, there is a problem. I want to talk about the problem I had with the network for example and he wants to talk about who Rick Ross is dating. I want to tell him that I am up for a promotion and he wants to talk about why I am not looking for a job for him. That just doesn’t work. So what ends up happening is I have to dumb myself down to his level, which makes me feel like an idiot. So does that mean I am picky? I think not. The fact that I went out with this person blows up that notion because I did try it. I was willing to stand by him and accept his circumstances.

The reason I didn’t continue dating him has nothing to with me excluding him or dismissing him off the break. The plain truth is that we are in two different places, which caused more problems than chemistry and attraction can overcome. At some point, you need more than chemistry and attraction, like common interest, mutual hobbies, etc.

Also, men have more superficial standards that exclude a lot of good women off the break. She is too fat, too skinny, too tall, too short, she wears a weave, her feet aren’t pretty, she is too dark, too light, etc. Why is it okay for a man to have criteria but not a woman? Truth be told, men probably miss out on more good women then vice versa.

The bottom line is everyone wants what they cannot have. It is the typical “the grass is greener syndrome.” No one is ever satisfied with the person until he or she moves on. It is at that point one appreciates all of the good things about the person. Only a select few of us take hold of that person right away. Those my friends are the smart ones; the ones that know when they have a good thing.

~Lola

12 comments:

  1. I think you nailed it with the "everyone wants what they cannot have" line. That seems to apply very well to relationship issues.

    It's interesting that, if a lot of successful women are "dating down," then a lot of less-successful men are "dating up."

    I also wonder if "less successful" women actually do tend to have more successful relationships -- OR, do women in general have the same amount of success/difficulty with relationships, but the difficulty is blown out of proportion for successful women because you think, "She has everything in her career -- why doesn't she have this success in a relationship?" whereas with a less successful woman, lack of relationship success is just one more aspect that she's not having a great time with.

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  2. to simply answer your question... no. if you went to college you already know the number of eligible men significantly decreased the higher the number in front of your class went...so why do you expect anything different in the real world? a successful woman is not picky, they just have less to pick from...(if you come from the old fashioned understanding that men are the bread winners)

    There are plenty of reasons why a "successful" woman is alone. Alot of the traits that make her successful, make her not desirable to a majority of men who feel the need to be the breadwinner. A man has to feel needed, sad but true fact. When dating a "successful" woman, with her nice place, nice clothes, nice everything... where can he feel needed? yes a warm body in the bed, yes a person to take out the trash... but like you said men are superficial, its nice to be wanted.. but its more secure to be needed...

    quick question.. name a "successful" women thats married?

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  3. This is a good post, and Chiefy said it right--there are just less to pick from. We're not too picky, there's just not much left to pick.

    The only "successful" married women that I know are married to men whom some would say are "beneath them" [bank vp married to city cop] and the relationships always seem a bit lop-sided and strained, whether they've been to gether for 20+ years or not. The successful married women that I know who are our age (28-35), in the same situation, are already separated or almost divorced.

    You already know my stance on marriage so I won't have to repeat it here, but the chances of it happening, the more successful you are, are slim to none. We need to get used to it.

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  4. Caley Lee, that is an interesting perspective. I never really considered that. One would have to conduct a full social study to get a true comparison. But generally speaking, I would say that because less-successful men tend to date up, the reverse must be true. Let's take Tiger Woods for example, he married a nanny. :-)

    Chiefy, so is it your preference to date down? Are successful women hard to deal with? Please elaborate on your theory. Enquiring minds want to know. :-) To answer your question, most successful women who are married weren't successful when they got married. They sort of built their success with their husbands. So, other than Beyonce, I cannot think of anyone. :-)

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  5. umm tiger married a "hot blonde"... her occupation doesnt matter. men dont have to worry about that stuff, women marry for security, love is an "afterthought"... its why a woman can marry a man and not be concerned about looks, as long as he makes her feel safe and taken care off.. its all good.

    is it my preference.. no.. but if we speaking "traditionally" then yes. the old addage is men marry down and woman marry up... i dont think this is shocking anyone.

    No successful women are not hard to deal with, its just that when a man gets home he doesnt want a "power" struggle in "his" house. I know im making men sound like all they want is some mindless drone with 2 holes (3 if ur a white boy.. think about it.. think about it...) but thats not my intention. Im just trying to state that men want to feel needed, its really as simple as that. A woman who is successful has to much on her plate to be "catering" to some man when she gets home or to be worried about his ego when she brings home more money, or takes him on vacation or buys him a car... she has other things to worry about...

    and about beyonce... if you use the old addage from above.. is there really anyone else she could of married? is there anyone else that is "above" her... if you think women in DC's options are limited, try being beyonce... I would like to bet that the minute Jay is not as successful as he is now... not grossing 1 million a show(http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/16/jay-z-diddy-akon-business-entertainment-hip-hop-cash-kings.html)... that beyonce and him will break up...just a thought.

    the fact that you cant name a married successful woman is a problem... condolessa rice, oprah, any female CEO... you could of named Hillary Clinton.. but lets be real.. she ended that marriage with bill years ago, she just stayed married for political fame... even cathy hughes is not married...though she was.. but when Radio one took off.. her marriage crashed..

    Heres a link of the most successful women CEO's(http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womenceo1.html#axzz0xeC1jodL)... a husband is only mentioned in 2 of the bios, hughes and scardino... not saying that the absence of husband in the bio means that shes not married.. but its interesting nontheless...

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  6. If women marry for security, and you're already secure, then why marry? That's why those successful women CEOs are single--and other successful women too. Maybe the successful women that we're speaking of aren't picky--they're just called picky because they don't want what's being offered. At all.

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  8. well some may decide to marry because...

    [Verse 1]
    B.O.B., B.O.B. don't say he miss you
    And he don't have lips to kiss you
    And he don't have hands to dip your waist
    And tell you how good you taste, yeah
    See B.O.B., B.O.B. can't serve you breakfast in bed
    Oh no (he can't) bathe your body (he can't) rub your feet (he can't)
    He can't compete with my love (so tonight) I'm commin over


    [Verse 2]
    I know (I know, I know)
    You think that you can take B.O.B. anywhere (B.O.B. anywhere, B.O.B. anywhere)
    But B.O.B. can't caress your skin
    Help you stretch and bend
    And if you ask all your girlfriends,
    I'm sure you'll agree that B.O.B. (B.O.B.)
    B.O.B. don't talk dirty to you (B.O.B. won't get verbal with you)
    B.O.B. don't get all flirty with you (B.O.B. don't get freaky with you)
    B.O.B. don't turn it around and make the bed bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, like I do


    B.O.B. don't play Donny Hathaway followed by Marvin Gaye,
    Followed by Sade, followed by Al Green, followed by Raheem,
    Followed by Prince, followed by DeBarge, and MJB (MJB) and Jodeci (Jodeci)
    Pattie Labelle (Pattie Labelle) followed by The Isley's (Maxwell),
    Earth Wind and Fire (Earth Wind and Fire) and Luther Vandross
    'Cause B.O.B. can't help you take them Vicky Secrets off

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  9. Going to college in Atlanta, I became accustomed to dating educated women. I wouldn't date a woman if she didn't have some type of education or was pursuing an education. Then I moved back to Texas to help my mother move and met a woman who was 1 of 18 children. I found that she wasn't as intelligent as I was, she would come home and watch BET all night instead of the news, and countless reality shows. I say this because she made me happy, then I realized she was raised to be a loving mother and wife. She wasn't raised to be the next black female CEO. It didn't make her any less of a woman, and once I got over my own superficial thinking I realized that she was a great woman as well. I don't think successful women are too picky at all. I believe deep down the majority of them just want someone that makes them happy and appreciates them for who they are, as do men! I've dated women I made more money than, and dated some that made more money than me. It all boils down to the person being secure with their role as a man/women in a relationship. In my adult life I haven't found the worse thing about successful women to be that they were picky. It's simply that they are so career minded that they simply claim to not have time. Then when they've reached most of their goals they're in their mid 30's wondering where all the men are at. Well the men were there, but you made a choice. You chose a life with no balance of love and work! My mother and father always told me, people make time for who and what they want to make time for. Most successful women are only accustomed to making time for themselves in my opinion. Now I don't feel men/women need to worry about dating down, or dating up, date someone who makes you happy, and make it work from there. Nobody is perfect, find those qualities in a person that you can't live without and you'll work out just fine.

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  10. I don't think successful women are too picky... I think they are too independent... regardless of the financial situation you have to let a man be a man... Many women say they want a man to take care of them but it seems like they just want him to buy her nice things & spend money on her. But it's more to it than just that...

    Independent women are so use to being in control it's sometimes hard to relinquish some of that control to a man... Myself included.

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  11. A man can still be a man and the head in his household if he's not making more money then his wife. I mean when all the money's gone he's still a man isn't he? Being a man is about taking care of your family, making sure that your family is safe. Your woman may not need to depend on you finacially but she may still need you to open the jars, bring in the firewood, mow the lawn, fix her car, even be her money manager when she decides to take too many spending trips. Just because she makes more doesn't mean that she doesn't depend on you just as much as she would've if you made more!

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  12. I believe the problem is more fundamental. Our jobs aren't the issue, its your core beliefs and who you are as a person. Take Tiger Woods. This man was raised to be an athlete, not a nice guy, not a husband, not even a black man as evidenced by his choice to further water down his blood line. His wife was a nanny who latched onto a meal ticket, completely overlooking the fact that this man was probably ALREADY have sex with any and every white chick he ran across. They both got what they deserved, because they both overlooked the other's core beliefs. They had no real common ground. If you want a well educated man you may want to make sure you have some education yourself. You may like the "thug-like" guys but you shouldn't be surprised when that's all he wants to talk about is Rick Ross' girlfriend. When people show you who they are believe them the first time.

    I'm sure in working relationships both individuals aren't always interested in every single thing the other is, but some individuals know that "listening" to your partner goes a long way in maintaining a relationship. Is that maturity or a core value? Can that be taught or is it who you are? Those are the things we should be looking for, not physical or materialistic attributes.

    I don't think its too picky to want what you want, but some of us don't truly understand what goes with what it is we want. Don't marry a doctor for the money and status, then complain that he's never home. That's the nature of his job. He's never going to be home. Don't get with a hood rat then complain she is only interested in going to the club and making sure her outfit is hot.

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